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My only thoughts are the inability to use bonnets with this set up? You would have to fully saturate the bonnet before the encap made it to the floor, thus eliminating the recovery abilities of the bonnet?

Nice work mike. Nothing in our society is built to last anymore unless you do it yourself.

I have ALWAYS had better results with HOT water....as hot as you can get. It is a piece of cleaning pie and logically will break down soil quicker than cold water

If the OP is still reading this thread then I will throw a monkey wrench into the discussion and say he has a much better chance of succeeding at cleaning his carpets with an Oreck Orbiter, some bonnets and some good encap prespray than he does with a Rug Doctor...for about the same equipment...

Mike Im not understanding your math. Are you saying that one jug of releasit will only cover 300 sq. ft? If so that is way off. One RTU (Ready to Use, mixed) gallon covers 300 sq. ft. So a jug of releasit would cover 9600 sq. ft (128 /4 = 32 (x 300))making it $.0043 per gallon?? Procyon, Bonet...

Yes I believe it is safe for all fibers. And yes you can use it as your encap cleaner and mix it stronger for a pre spray.

If concerned, drop to Vacaway Hot Knife Extreme. Its nearly as potent as Grease Hawg but without the high ph.

Where is your "Before" picture Mike? [emoji1]

No better encap pre spray on the market than Vacaway Grease Hawg (4-8 oz a gallon) combined with Vacaway Detonator (5 oz per gallon) Because it is expensive, I do not use that combo as my main cleaner in my OP, but for pre spray and dwell the above recipe is awesome.

Make sure your bonnet is at least 2" larger than your pad driver. So if you are running a 17" pad driver on the Orbot, run at least a 19" bonnet, for bad edges and corners you could run a 20-21" this will make sure you have bonnet agitation on edges an corners. True the full weight of the...

Typically you will see your cleaning effectiveness lessen as the bonnet becomes saturated. When that happens, put on a new one. Also most OPs will begin to have a "ruff ride" as the Bonnet gets heavy with moisture. So the more you use your machine, the better you get at determining when to...

Thanks Rob and all TMF supporters! There is no doubt in my mind that I use better machines, chemicals and techniques because of TMF. With this help I feel I'm one of the best Carpet, Tile and VCT cleaning companies in my area. Without all of you, I would be mediocre like much of my competition.

Always, ALWAYS, follow your gut. Every time I have failed to do so I have gotten burned.

Yes. They make good OP machines. Their biggest drawback in my opinion is they are behind the competition in design. No onboard spray system and lack of wheels down operation make them more difficult to use versus an Orbot or Trinity.

One thought with the Rx-20... What is the head weight on that? As a general rule, based on a 17 inch driver, you need about 50-75lbs of head weight for your machine to be effective.

On that job, If I remember correctly, I prespayed with Grease Hawg and let dwell. Then I scrubbed with my Cimex laying down more encap solution. I was using FloorcareMD Full Spectrum in the Cimex. Then post bonnet. If you are going to use a sprayer and 175 it is critical that you spray down...

All the ones mentioned so far are very good and I've used about them all. I also like Mikes' stuff: http://shop.floorcaremd.com/Encapsulation-Cleaner-FCMD-encap04.htm It is very good and reasonably priced as well.

As an example, here is a similar type carpet I did with a Cimex, followed by a few bonnets, no HWE at all:

This one looks like it would clean up nicely with Encap. What machine do you have access to and what chemicals? A Cimex would be great followed by some bonnets with an OP or 175.

Hmmm....the bubbles don't sound right. What are you using to lay wax? Any pics of bubbles? Might help someone recognize the issue.

Definitely need to get the air moving. Way too much humidity if you don't which may be causing your bubbles. Cranking the AC up and air movers will definitely help out.

Air movers are great as long as you keep them far enough back from your wax. Start them on low, then when area in front of blower is dry, pump them on high. Will save you bunches of time. Lighter coats wont ripple or bubble assuming you are using a quality wax. Some wax doesn't level very well...

Will see what the future holds, only have 2 years so far on my Promaster so not in a position to make any moves now. But hopefully there will be plenty of options in the near future. I'll definitely go AWD in the future if I can.

Hmm..ill have to check that out...that would be bad.

True but only the Savanna I believe. Only the new style cargo vans do I consider practical and worth investing in.