What do you do to acheive a true "wet look" on v.c.t.

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  1. mooreoftom

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    This was recently touched upon on another thread on another subject, so I wanted to devote a separate to this topic.

    What is your process, what are your chemicals, to achieve a "high gloss" or "wet look" or "mirror finish" - all terms we have heard on how customers want their v.c.t. floors to look.

    Also, What are your processes to maintaining that wet look? Do you spray buff, dry buff, use restorers, etc.

    Lastly, do you have pictures to show us your best high gloss finish.

    I think we can all learn from each others' experience :)
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    Tom, everything depends about the finish and the amount of finish you use.
    More coats will add more shine. The best thing i can recomend is to try some finishes and then you decide.
    The list of the finishes I think they provide a good wet look finish are: show place, polaris, high mileage, time saver, Ishine, amplify. monostar. of course i did not try all the finishes of the market but these are my favorite.
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    Basically use premium floor finish and several layers 5-6 range . Any high end Johnson brand or for me Betco Best

    Spray buff either Top Guard is the best if med/high finish on there, if low/medium finish then snap back, all top johnson products are good.I may not use them personally but would reccomend them no problem
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    I know it is not the secret most look for but you really do have to try a couple different finishes and find the one that works for you

    See on another post jaime said he didnt like the timesaver product because it dries too fast, well i view it as not putting enough finish down. No "right" answer we have both done this long enough and tried different finishes and found the one we like to work with.Overall my opinion is to reduce labor costs and go with higher end finishes but that is my personal view.Even if the labor cost is me, i have no interest in waiting for 5 coats of wax to dry.
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    Shane, I like time saver sr, i think it is really good product, maybe the best for labor saving thati know of, after you strip a floor 3 coats ar more than enough to get a nice shine.
    But I find it hard to work if you wax for example a science room, sometimes the a/c is on and there are table you cannot move and you need to wax just by little areas, it might take you 5 minutes to do right the small area, so when you over lap is tacky and you can do a mess. also there are people who can not wax a floor fast enough.
    That is why I choose high mileage almost as a time saver, good shine and give you time to wax floors.
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    If you put enough coats on a floor you will get the wet look. pics to follow.
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    Wet is it dry??????????
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    Oh yeah.
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    your words not mine
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    Yes, Shane.
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    Ed, nice job, how many coats that particular floor? and what finish did you use?
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    5 coats, Proforce by Ecolab
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    nice Ed, I like Ecolab floor finishes.
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    To keep the wet look you need a 3000 rpm propane burnisher and pads that match your floor finish.
    If you're clever you can get away with a 2000 rpm cord electric but takes a bit longer and more skill.

    anybody can wax a floor and it looks great the first few days...but how does it look 3-4 weeks later?? :)

    good luck.
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    Nice job Ed!
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    Same here with a polyester mop or applicator; depends on the quality and levelness of the floor as to what applicator type I use. Really level vct over nice level high quality concrete; I use a polyester applicator like a butter knife; an elevated box fan to dry; never use an air mover on the floor; it will cause distortion/waviness in the finish.
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    Good Point, but iwould just put the air mover at a 45o angle. either way no way we will sit and wait for the finish to dry.
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    Its really surprising that some of the old school people are not talking about buffing more than product for the wet-look results.
    I have been doing VCT for roughly 15+ years and my belief is that the buffer(burnisher) is where the wet-look comes from. Alot of the new product lines really sale that more coats and re-coating is where the wet-look comes from. Now don't get me wrong a good bases of wax and keeping the wax at level is VERY important also but its not the where the peak shine comes from.
    The process is simple(on a reg non waxing visit), I sweep, Mop with clean cold water, Buff(spray buff), and then sweep. Now what is different from what most people do is, is that I have a machine that was made in the 90's and walk about the speed of a turtle. The machine is really the secret of my wet-look. Unlike the machine that are widely used today that are real light weight and almost no pad pressure compared to the older machines. I assume that the main stream product company's make lighter machines so that they can sale more product to achieve the wet-look.

    anywho, I could go on for hours about Floor buffing and care. I can help anyone that need it on any issues with VCT tile. Just let me know.

    Thanks Dan
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    I can agree with that part of it.

    Recently picked up a old,very old Tenannt Slow speed and this thing is a beast, it is as heavy as a cimex.Well the biggest change i noticed is we never have to go over a strip or scrub more then 1 cycle, it is so heavy and pad pressure so great it takes everything off. It only cost me $50.

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