Wand Jets and their flow Capacities. Dialing in your wand.

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  1. Gnu

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    I read the post with what jets people are using. How abou a post to give a jet size and its flow, and spray pattern in degrees.
    this will help people to determine what jets to use on their wands to play with and dial into what they desire.
    thanks in advance.
    please also include flood jets if you have the info.

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    Flow will vary from the same jet depending on a number of factors. Diameter of the water hose used makes a huge difference as well as length of hose connected. At normal pressures up to 600 psi or less it is not possible to reach a 2 gpm flow with 1/4" hose(100 ft or more). 3/8" hose has no problem reaching this flow.

    My favorite jets for most TMs are the 9502 size. With a 4 jet wand they give good flow without comprimizing the water temp of most TMs. If your unit is fuel fired or high heat I like 6 of the 9502s on a 6 jet wand.
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    I dont get it why many people like a high flow, I pre spray, then I bonnet and then i extract with 2 jets with 01 or 1.5 flow, i clean with a portable and i never ever had a problem, and i dont have to use too much water.
    the bonnet help a lot to remove dirt and the pre spray, so the rinsing is faster, also after the bonneting the carpet will be with less moisture.
    Mos of the time after the extraction I bonnet with a new pad and then i comb the carpet.
    the carpets dry in 2 hours, and when we use the air mover that will be less than 15 minutes.
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    I know you and everyone else has their own methods for cleaning carpets. the purpose of this post is list the flow of any and all jets IF you have the info.

    Jaime I too use the same jets you do with my porty and the tm. I am asking for the sake for everyone else to know. I keep on hand qds with seperate jets attached for nasty carpets I just slap on a bigger one to accomidate.
    takes less than 20 seconds unless the nozzles are hot. and I am no stranger to the bonnets lol they work awesome after cleaning Berber carpets To wick the moisture out. Jaime have you thought about a power head? brushes in the presprays and remove dog hair in clumps. Looks like someone took a lawn mower to the dog or something lol
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    I just traded in an el doable with great heat for a boxer 323. I knew a hx would not produce quite as much heat but 190 is sufficient for me with this new machine. My question is this. I use a pmf titanium wand with six 01 jets and the heat drops drastically. Does anyone have any advice on what I can do. I was thinking about dropping the jet sizes. Any suggestion what sizes I should use? Thanks
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    Buy back the ED?Seriously,you are going to notice it now more than ever.I would not go lower then 01s for clogging reasons(01s are bad enough)so its either live with it or go down to a 4 jet wand.I dont know where your at,but if it gets cold,the ambiant temp is going to cool you down even more,so maybe a 4jet in the winter,and when it warms up,grab your 6 jet.
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    Priceless is correct. Do not go any lower on the spray nozzles. To me 01's are not good for cleaning carpets as it is. 03's and up are best imo and experience. But since you downgraded heat wise you are in a tough position. My suggestion is a two jet Westpak 0330 wand with 03 jets,glide and possible extensions. I realise this is the same flow but the volume with the smaller head will work better for flushing and delivering heat to the carpet interface. Use this wand in Winter and use the PMF in Summer.
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    You should of posted you were about to trade in your El Diablo!
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    This is new info to me. You guys mind breaking down the characteristics of various nozzle types, and how they affect the cleaning capabilities? Sounds much more complex than what I'd have expected, from reading this.

    We have 4 CDS TM's, a Boxxer 427, and a Powerline TM that's not particularly impressive, if that makes a difference.
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    My Westpak 14" 4-Jet wand came with 95015s. I got the slotted glide from Rob as well as 1/2" jet extenders and 11002s. What is the real difference between these two sets? I run a Powerclean Freedom XT with heat exchangers and a 47 blower. This is hot a high heat system so which set of jets should clean the best as well as retaining maximum heat?

    I too would like to understand what these jet numbers mean.
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    The first digits tell you how would the angle of spray is. The original set had a 95 degree angle. With the extenders, you move closer to the carpet and need a wider angle to avoid missing anything, so the replacement set had a 110 degree angle.

    The last two or three digits tell the flow rate. It can vary according to your pump pressure and many other factors. I think of the numbers as a comparison. A total flow rate of 6 is common for many truckmounts. (4 X 1.5 = 6 in the original set.) The replacement set of 02 raised the total flow rate of the four jets to 8. An increase of about 33%.

    Higher flow rate is great for flushing as long as you have sufficient vacuum to remove 33% more water you are putting down.
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    Scott- Thank you so much for that info...makes sense now! I will have more water to flush more dirt and my #47 blower should recover just fine but my heat will definitely go down as my Powerclean Freedom didn't have great heat with the 95015s. Should I be worried about the obvious heat loss since I will be flushing better?
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    Jeremy;

    The temperature will go down . . .

    but you will transfer more heat to the carpet from the higher flow.

    Heat exchangers are more efficient,
    when you flow more water thru them.

    Larry
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    I was just shopping for jets and found this post helpfull but also found exact number on a site. To sumerize manufacturers rate their jets at 40 psi to establish their number so a 11002 does .2 gpm at 40 psi and a 11003 puts out .3 gpm. I am sure there is some formula for calculating at our higher pressure. My new wand has 2 jets at 11002 and I couldn't stand it so I followed the above recomendations and ordered 11003's which should give me 50% greater flow (and match the 6 recomendation). I generally wet on pull stroke on light soild and both on heavy soil following with a dry stroke (double vacuuming).
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    Whats up guys? First off I would like to say my name is Jesse, Ive been reading your posts for the last couple months and thought I would sign up and get in on all this action. lol.

    Well I finally broke down and bought a new Wand from my local Supplier. Its a 2 Jet 12" S bend wand but with a lower profile head. The jets are only about 2 inches from the carpet. The jet size that came with it are 11001. My old wand was the practially the same except it was about 4 inches from jet to carpet. I was thinking this might help with better heat and I like the lower profile.

    I just used it today for the first time and it seemed like I was loosing more heat and alot less water than my 2 jet wand with 11002's. Do you think It would be best to up my jet size to the 11002, or something different or what do would you suggest. Im running a Prochem Blazer xl which doesn't put off as much heat as I would prefer. My plan is to run this machine until I can purchase a El Diablo.

    Whatcha think??

    Any info would be great.
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    My two jet wand has 9503 jets which gives me a 6 flow rating. Your 11001 jet will need that wider angle because of how low they are but will be using a third of the water flow compared to mine.

    I recommend keeping the angle the same but getting some more flow. 11003 would be a good place to start.
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    Thanks for the advice. I have a set of 11002's but I will get my hands on a set of 11003's. I would perfer a little extra rinse with a couple extra dry strokes... Thats my thoughts. Here is what I have. You dont think the 11003's arnt too big?

    Whats everyone elses thoughts.

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    I'm running 11004's on a 2 jet wand with my LTD5. Like to move it nice and slow.
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    I run a powermatic and use 11003 and my wand has 5 jets. That's right I said it. A FIFTEEN flow. Dry times are up a little but cleaning times are way way down.
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    Forget about flow numbers. Fill up a 5 gallon bucket, and tell me how long it takes.

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