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Strip and re-finishing VCT

Discussion in 'Hard Surface Care' started by Joseph Rogers, Feb 21, 2012.

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    Had a local hospital contact me, and they'd like me to come in and look at areas they need to be stripped and re-finished. I was intending to rent a scrubber and 175, but towards the end of the conversation the guy tells me (without my asking) that I can use the equipment that's already there and chemicals, but at the very least I have to use his chemicals. That way he doesn't have to get anything else approved.

    Were I to use their chems and equipment, I'm unsure how much I should reduce my price. It's beginning to look like I'm going to simply HAVE to branch out into VCT, just because of the amount of work that's there and available, so it would be nice to have decent equipment of my own, and that means adding a margin in to purchase equipment.

    How much should I reduce my price if I'm using his chems and equipment? Any tips/tricks/ideas?

    Zach is standing over my shoulder right now, simply DYING to see how the smiley faces work, so I'm going to put a few up for him. He says he doesn't want to say hi, he's a bit shy, but...:mad::D:bigsmiley::cool::)haha
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    If they are supplying the equipment and chemicals maybe give them a 25% discount. It's fairly easy work to do, but it is time consuming so don't let them take you down too low on the price.
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    I'd say closer to 15% markdown depending on square footage. When I do T&M (time and material), material cost is usually around 15%.
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    I wouldn't reduce my price too much, VCT work is time consuming.
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    is this another 70K sq ft whopper? I would block out 6 months to complete it
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    hahahahahaha

    It's a big ass hospital...but he's just talking about some exam rooms, doctors offices, and the like. I'll know more when I go out there and meet him on Thursday.
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    Seeing you don't have the equipment anyways and your brand new to being a solo owner id be willing to dive pretty hard just to make sure your butt isnt sitting at home not making money for future work. I'm with Todd 25% but I'd even go a bit further if I was in your situation at the moment, maybe up to 40%, you won't have to do anything but show up.. There basically asking you to work like a employee without being a employee, what would a employee get paid? Not close to 60%...
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    But all this depends on what your starting price is..

    What were you gonna charge per sq fr btw?
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    Not decided yet. It will be less per square for open areas, but if there's a bunch of little detail oriented crap that I'm going to have to do, then price goes up.

    I've not had an opportunity to look at this yet. The phone call I got this morning was in response to a visit I made to the hospital a few weeks ago.
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    Seriously man, when dealing with vct, any discount you give needs to be on the order of a traditional Sears "discount".

    Mark your top price up by 50%, and then give them a 50% discount.
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    Dealing with vct is almost all labor. Material and equipment costs are pretty low. Watch out for edges as they build up and you may have to strip twice. Depending on what you will charge per square foot should dictate your discount. Keep in mind that this may lead to further work down the line so whatever you decide should be consistent with what you will do in the future. Hmmm...I wouldn't do the Sears deal.
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    Hospitals, nursing home and the like are a PIA!!!!! They just want your labor at contract price and then tell you, you can only do 100 sqft at a time at 3 in the morinig..
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    No discount, they likely have a garbage stripper, won't have good pads, and the times they will want the work done will be bad. Take your own pads at the very least. Their applicator will be shot. Oh, and they probably will have a less than ideal finish.
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    And if the stripper sucks, you can double the time you're there.
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    The biggest problem with in house operations is they buff over dirt and wax over dirt for 5 years. Always complete an area first before you commit to a price. You cant tell its 10 layers of finish, it looks super dull.

    Been through that booby trap more then once.
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    1. amount of square feet to strip and finish
    2. buy one floor machine just in case, use theirs for a back up. enough profit to buy a machine, buy used, forget a brand new buffer, many on sell to buy a new one.
    3. buy the best floor stripper remover on the market, and yes the most expensive will work, fastrip best period, i defy anybody to try it.
    4. use a decent floor finish, mostly cost effective, too much solid is good, but harder to use because it is heavy.
    5. question for them: who will have to move furniture? who will put back the furniture?
    6. how long you have to finish the job
    7. buy a wax of finish applicator to do it fast and cost effective.
    8. around 1000 sq ft per hour is suppose the average stripping.
    9. around 4 to 5 k sq ft for waxing a floor, depending on many factors
    10. charge enough money, forget about discounts, you bring your own, chemicals, equipment, and tools, you know your tools to do their job, and sometime experimenting with others will slow you down.

    good luck!
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    Thats still a %25 discount.

    $1.00 marked up %50 is $1.50
    Then reduced by %50 is $0.75
    Total price $0.75

    I would give very little discount....maybe just the cost of the wax.
    Around $0.01 per coat per foot.
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    LOL

    Yeah numbers are funny like that
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    Locko - You strip 1000 sf per hour? Even if it's built up? Recently did my first job, all open floor 1700 sf, and it took 6 hrs. Very heavy buildup (we had to do it twice). Spread BareBones, scrubbed with 175 and black pad, then shop vac followed by mop with water.
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    He does not know your price yet. Raise your pricing 25% then give him a 10% off the first time. If it is a bad experence you have only lost your time. If it works out well you will know better next time.
    VCT jobs are unpredictable and can go either way.
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