Prochem 405

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    Hodge

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    I need your opinion. I'm considering the purchase of a PROCHEM 405 with 1900 HRS. It comes in a Ford E-350 with 100,000+ miles, 150' vac hose, 150' solution hose, fresh water tank, waste water tank, wand, upholstery wand and some misc. items.

    I'm just starting in the business. I've done a tile and carpet job with the machine. Runs steady heat at 230 degrees on carpet. I'll be purchasing an RX-20.

    Asking Price = $20,800

    Is this a good machine for me to start out with? Does this machine have a good history? How are repairs/cost?

    Thanks for any help/suggestion you can give me!

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    Hodge

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    Any advice?

    Is this a good price? I think it's high...of course. Thanks.

    Greg Hodsden
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    The PC 405 rocks dude.
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    Prochem is a good machine for sure. Check out the price of a new machine. A used machine with almost 2000 hours should sell for 50 to 65% of the original cost.

    The van with over 100,000 miles does not add much value to the package. You can check out the value of the van in NADA book.

    There would also be some value to whatever tools and accessories might be included.

    The price does sound pretty high to me. I also wonder about a van with so many miles and a machine with relatively low hours. The numbers don't match up right unless there may have been another machine mounted in the van previously.

    Scott Warrington
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    Hodge

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    Thanks

    The van did have another machine in it. The distributor sold it and put the 405 in.
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    Forr what it's worth- my opinion is that is a to much money in this ecomony. You didn't state the year of van but you can find more value out there I am certain.
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    yeah i think that alot also look on craigslist or truckmountdeals.com
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    Ditto what Scott said; it is a little too spendy. I figure the machine is worth about $8-9,000 at best. And that is if it is super-clean.

    If the machine and van is clean and well maintained I would offer them $13,000-$15,000; of course I don't know what year the van is nor do I know your local market/economy.

    As Ara said; the 405 is a great machine; the Nissan engine is bullet-proof. I was never real crazy about the vac on a 405, but it is overall a great machine. The replacement parts can be pricey because most of ProChems parts are proprietary, but the good news is that parts are readily available and the support is good. Make sure you have a local shop that can work on these because the 405 can be a nightmare to repair for an inexperienced person.

    Make an offer you can live with and stick to it. They may just take it after a while because in my experience, van/machine packages are harder to sell than a machine by itself. And if some sucker gives them $20,000 for it, then so be it! Just be glad it wasn't you!

    Good Luck! Keep us posted on the negotiations.
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    I have a PC 405 with over 10,000 hours. It is a good machine. It's a bit hard to work on yourself but manageable. That said the price is high. Just a guess without seeing it but $16K is probably closer depending on what comes with it.
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    Im pretty sure Rob has that same setup selling for about 10k.
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    5 to 10 k .. Being in colorado does it have a lot of rust from salt on the road?
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    I had a friend just sell his PC with twice the hours but van was nearly new and well kept; all machinery was 100 percent awesome in visual and mechanical. Not sure what model hey had; but he barely got 10k for it!! Van had 48k and was well kept 2006 chevy.
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    Hodge,

    I have Personally purchased T/M's used for as little as $1,500.00, Not as large a machine as a 405, But it only had 28 Hrs on it. Guy bought setup for his Kids and they found out carpet cleaning is WORK. He paid 16K for the set up and just wanted to dump it. If You have a "Good" Local distributer he'll know of better deals.
    Our local guy just helped someone pick up a boxxer 421 hoses tanks reels, $5K.

    Getting out of this business is brutal.

    Keep shopping you'll find some of the great deals out there!

    Mike Griffin
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    Thanks for all the replies guys. Here's my next question:

    How do I close a thread that's outdated? I just realized that you were all responding to this. Sorry.

    Here's what I ended up with:

    Fox 6000 with 9800 hours and '95 Chevy G30 van for $5000. I've been cleaning for 3 months, and I'm very happy with my purchase. The only problem I've had, was fixed this morning and it was an original part. Good to go for another 10,000 hours!
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    Nice! The Fox is a great machine as well!
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    THe 405 is a work horse in the right hands. Great for water jobs . And does take more muscle to move the wand .

    It does have many bells and whistles and its down time could be highly increased.

    If u have little truck mount experiance then i would say hold off.
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    He bought a Fox
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    nice man your gonna love it thats what i have
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