Moss on outdoor carpet

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  1. Dutch

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    Ok, I cleaned an outdoor patio this morning. Moss on the carpet. Even with lots of agitation, there is still moss clinging to the fibers. Now, here are my thoughts about this job.

    Perhaps the hot water was able to kill the moss and in a few weeks, the "roots" will release from the fibers and I can reclean it and get the rest off, BUT, there will still be residual "staining" of the carpet.

    Another thought, and one that really appeals to me, is to spray the outdoor carpet with Roundup. It will kill the moss for sure. A few weeks later, I'll reclean, and the rest will detach.

    Now, keep in mind, this carpet is now a 1000% better than it was before I started this morning, however, I want this stuff DEAD and gone.

    Any other reasonable ideas?

    BTW, I'm sure the Roundup won't hurt the carpet, but it sure as heck will put the hurts to the moss.
  2. TheEyeball

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    Roundup would worry me. I don't know if it's a good idea to put poison on carpet. How can you be sure it would all clean out? I bought some awesome peroxide based stuff at Jon-Don last month but i can't remember what it's called. I know it would work, and safely to boot.
  3. Todd the Cleaner

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    Is this your carpet or a customers?
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    I don't know about moss.... but if its the nasty green mildewy stuff.... 1/2 water 1/2 bleach, aggitate, and rinse
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    Is it that plastic crunchy outdoor stuff?

    You could almost bleach it if it was.

    Id use OSR on it with agitation then hot water extract with a rotary and heavy acid rinse.
  6. TheEyeball

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    Fiberlock Advanced Peroxide Cleaner. It says IAQ on the container for some reason. That's why I can't ever remember the name.
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    I don't think I would put roundup on the carpet, you may end up owning that piece of outdoor carpet and worse you could put your business in danger of a lawsuit if anything or anybody wanted to get ugly about unusual methods of carpet cleaning.
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    Roundup is a salt, that become inert with soil contact. Much of our food supply is grown in soil where Rounup has been used. I'd have no worries putting it down, outside, on an olefin carpet. I know it will kill the moss. Not so sure about peroxide based cleaners.

    I have considered using the RU, then coming back a few weeks later with OSR and a good rinsing.
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    I was thinking of bleach as well, not sure I wanted to go that route as it's tough to neutralize. But, doable. Makes more sense to me than a peroxide based cleaner.

    I gotta kill this stuff. DEAD.
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    just a very quick search on roundup
    Another important ingredient of Roundup is the surfactant POEA (polyethoxylated tallow amine), which is known for its toxicity in wildlife.[SUP][6][/SUP] It increases herbicide penetration in plant[SUP][7][/SUP] and animal[SUP][8][/SUP][SUP][9][/SUP] cells.

    I wouldn't carry it on my truck and sure wouldn't spray it down on someones carpet..indoor or outdoor..
    Be safe my friend, I got to get to work
  11. TheEyeball

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    So you think it's a good idea to spray poison on the carpet but you won't even consider using a product made for carpet? My buddy hoses his boat down, seats, carpet, all of it, with USR every year. It kills all the mildew/mold/moss no problem. But go right ahead with the Roundup. Sounds like a great idea.
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    Isn't bleach a poison as well? Most of what we use are "poisons".

    You'll use Roundup in your yard to kill weeds, but on the outside patio, with a rinse, you wouldn't consider it?

    Will the peroxide kill the moss so it can be removed? The "roots" of the moss are intertwined with the fibers, until it's dead, it will not degrade and be removeable.

    I'll consider the OSR, but some folks need to open their minds.

    I was gonna use a Quat on it, but thats a poison as well........
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    Lmao! Neutralize?

    Hahaha, but roundup sounds ok? Lol

    I have for this actually, and just rinsed...

    Do you neutralize your clothes when bleached? Or do you wash them with round up?
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    Polyethoxylated tallow amine (POEA) is a surfactant that enhances the activity of herbicides. It improves the solubility of many common herbicides in organic solvents[1], increasing their penetration of the waxy surfaces of plants. It may also interfere with the function of tadpole gills[2][citation needed]. This surfactant is not regulated under environmental laws because it is not considered an active ingredient in the herbicide.


    Please keep in mind, such surfactants are also used in lawn sprays to help hold the active chemicals, like 2,4,D and Roundup on the plants so it kills.

    I'd guess Chemlawn and the like use similar substances on your yards and you don't even know it.
    Farmers use these chemicals on crops all the time. After a period, the crops are harvested and fed to the animals we eat, or milk.

    I have a pretty good base of knowledge and usage of Roundup in a hobby of mine. I'd trust it in this particular application.
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    Guess its tough for city slickers to understand
  16. TheEyeball

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    If you already had the answer why did you ask the question? Personally I think using Roundup on carpet is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Today. Would you at least go to Jon-Don's website and look up the Fiberlock stuff? It will do exactly what you are looking for. For the love of god this is the dumbest situation I've ever seen in my life. Today.
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    I have lived in the country for over a decade with farm land on all sides......I have a 3rd nipple now! JKhahahaha
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    look into benefect botanical disinfectant
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    The product that Ross is talking about Is Advanced Peroxide Cleaner and appears to be just what you are looking for. You can check it out in this 3 minute vide[video=youtube;fAzMc2LWbOg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAzMc2LWbOg[/video]
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