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Discussion in 'General Carpet Cleaning & Upholstery Discussion' started by Eric J, Dec 26, 2011.

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    Just wanting to know about dry carpet cleaning. I currently do steam and encap with cimex. I see a huge opportunity to do some dry cleanings but unsure of results and how "clean" it actually is. I know some slam encap because the only true cleaning step is the vacuuming so it seems the the dry goes even one step less by not even using water at all to help emulsify.

    Or does the dry method? I have seen pics where you mist down first, then sprinkle dry powder, then scrub, then vacuum.

    Thoughts please.
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    I offer all methods of cleaning including steam cleaning, encap cleaning, and a "chem dry" type cleaning. Although I offer all methods I always try to talk my residential customers into steam cleaning because it does a better job. The other methods work too, the pre vacuuming is most critical on these jobs (I pre vacuum all jobs including steam cleaning jobs). While low moisture does provide some level of cleaning it is more of a surface clean as compared to a deep cleaning you get when using steam.

    Comercial glue down I use a combo of steam and encap.
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    My opinion on encap cleaning is that it actually cleans the carpet. I don't care what anybody says or thinks about that. It works. Big deal, ya know? Dry cleaning I don't think is advanced enough so I don't offer it. Every now and then someone will ask about it, and I tell them I can HWE their carpet with special care and see similar dry times as a dry method.
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    Try cleaning your hair with these methods, what happens?

    Just try them all out on some bad rentals and find the facts. It's easy to know the truth.
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    The hot water extraction method is always the best for deep cleaning and if pilated, raked, and the proper solutions are applied. If cleaned properly depending on the fiber of carpet it will last long until the next cleaning is needed. Always vacuum carpet first as the majority of the dirt, staining, etc in the carpeting is dry particles. This is the method I have always used and has always worked for me. Use a water bonding deodorization to be sure the carpet smells great after word. Make sure to ask the home owner they're preference.
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    I started out doing HOSt dry cleaning, did it for a couple of years but saw no future in it. I even cleaned some real nasties with host but at the end it was just as wet as doing HWE. With all the speed drying techniques out there dry cleaning is a waste IMO.
    I cleaned my carpet christmas eve and put out my blowers and had it dry in 45 minutes. I am still in contact with most of the host cleaners I met in Racine at the HOST school and they are either done with carpet cleaning or have moved on to HWE.
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    All the chem-dry guys around here us a HWE and a RX20... I've looked in their vans and most have their water pressure set at 250-300 lbs. if I cleaned at that pressure I'm sure my jobs would dry in 1 hour. I remember seeing Chem-Dry a long time ago and they never had truck mounts. They do now but say they are still Chem-Dry.... So if I turn my water pressure down am I considered Chem-Dry????
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    Not too sure where the opportunity is, Guys will steam clean for same price as a dry powder.
    For twice the service
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    Thats fine as long as you are doing half the work for twice the price and not the other way around.
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    Chemistry has change for encaping You have bonnet rotary and op there is difference in two methods.Op is far superior of two ,you must change with times or get left in dark.HWE as place but is getting to be a small part of the industry. Change is good .New technology is good ,cash in and you be a winner.You must do something different ,people like change or something new .
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    Seriously? Oh, I definitely see a rise in encap and other processes, but HWE is not going away anytime soon.
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    Used HOST for the first time tonight, actually. Been doing some work with a friend of mine to help with $ woes, and his family has some commercial contracts (pretty large) where they use HOST. Started doing it 28 years ago. They're wanting to work on expanding their carpet cleaning division (they do pressure washing and windows, too), and we're working on some kind of tentative partnership, so tonight I got to work with HOST in a gym that gets cleaned yearly.

    I'm not sure how I felt about it. The cleaning ability was decent, and the machine itself (Liberator) was one HELLA vacuum with counter-rotating brushes. The carpet was obviously brightening up, but I'd have to spend at least a couple hours doing it, and then some time doing a side by side comparison of HOST/HWE before I really made up my mind about it.

    The best guys in this business, I've found, don't offer just one method. Each has pros and cons, and the guys who really have their stuff together understand this, and use the various methods accordingly to produce happy customers. I felt like the HOST had apps where it could be put to better use than HWE, but it seems to me that it's a scalpel, and HWE is a machete....both work, but HWE seems to fit most jobs better and will get the job done faster.
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    The only time i can see it being useful s in a 24 hour setting like a hospital, casino or something.
    Otherwise encap is pretty easy and works well.
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    Um, no.
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    I have been using HOST for several years, over the last two years or so I have been trying out different encap solutions to try and incorporate it with the use of HOST dry compound and equipment. So far I like Releasit Hydrox the best and have found that each product works better together than either one used separately. For more heavily soiled carpet I rely more on HOST and less on the encap in most cases, you can see where the HOST powder removes more of the heavy soils in high traffic areas. If needed after HOST is used you can go back and spray a little more Hydrox in more heavily soilded areas and brush it in with the CRB HOST machine to further lighten high traffic/ stained areas. Again I have found it to be a great very versatile system when used together.
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    HWE or as my customers like to it "steam cleaning" is the only thing they will allow in there home and if only done by TM. Too many guys have ruined the names of Carpet cleaning methods that use portables and any other type of cleaning method around here. Of corse I'm only speaking in a upper end residential sense. We have encapped many commercial buildings.
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    And you have as many if not more people with TM's that have ruined steam cleaning for people. I have people that I clean only because I have an OP machine. They won't let a steam cleaner near their carpets.

    Have multiple methods, be the expert, and use the "best" method for the job at hand. If they complain about HWE, I have OP, if they don't like VLM, I HWE.
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    Encap would work in a 24hr environment and from what I've seen is faster.
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    This is key, be a multi-option provider and make them happyl

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