HELP!!!! can this situation be undone

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  1. ALOHA CARPET New Member

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    had an employee go to clean an area rug....the owner did not tell employee it was a wool rug (white)...so my employee used enzymatic cleaning pre spray n cleaned the rug like a regular area rug using 200degrees hot water n 350psi...customer called and complained n said their were splashes of redish stains all over...is there anything i can do to fix this...thank you all.
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    Honestly, I dont think cleaning with the hot water at 350 would have left "reddish" stains. Not sure how they got there but if it is a white rug you can try multiple cleanings with slightly cooler water using acetic acid as a prespray. You could also try a peroxide powder mix allowing it to dwell around 15 mins each time. Remember to groom after if it is a pile.

    One more option is multiple cleanings with Encap and a bonnet machine cleaning.
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    Enzymatic cleaner on wool was a really bad idea. Enzymatic cleaners will damage wool to begin with.

    Can you get some pics up?
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    carpet.jpg here is a pic n like i said employee did not know thanks for the quick replies please help me
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    Ohmigoodness. I'm gonna leave this one alone, and let Scott W. or someone of that stature weigh in. I don't have the slightest, Aloha, and I don't want to steer you wrong.
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    IM sorry to say but if that is wool and encap and a bonnet pad makes no difference, you are going to have to make a settlement with your customer. We have all been there. We feel for you man, but take it as learning experience.
    Maybe if you are lucky the customer will take cleaning credit as a settlement and you make the faulty technician do the work.
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    There's been some good advice this far, to bad your "employee" (wink wink) messed this up... This is why I quit cleaning any wool or any nice rug in home and learned how to properly clean them in our new rug shop.

    I don't know where in MI you are but if it was worth your time and money I'd be happy to try in fix this for you for free, you would just need to get it here, but without seeing it I have no idea at all how it would turn out. To be honest it doesn't look real expensive, I'd feel them out on what it cost, see if you can fix it, and if not ask them what the "used condition value" is to them, then I'd offer to credit them that amount in future cleanings, but most likely they will want replacement cost in cash. Lessons we learn in rug cleaning....

    Please keep us posted on how this plays out, if it gets fixed or if We can help...
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    just buy her a new one, it looks like a $50 dollar rug anyway.

    If its over a few hundred, call your business liability insurance company and get them to cut a check.

    I
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    This is one of my nightmares. Sorry for your troubles. Johnny
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    Hot water didn't do it. That is a chemical reaction. Need to know exactly what prespray was used on it, and find out what the customer or the customer's cleaning person is using on it. When you ask make sure they know you aren't accusing but that you are gathering info. When they say no one has used chemicals on it let them know you know they are lying :)

    Personally I think there is no hope but it would help if we can find out what chemicals have been used on it.
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    PS--Also agree it doesn't look expensive. I'd buy her a new one and then play it around with it and see if you can correct it. Still would like to know what chems have contacted it.
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    This is why I dont do area rugs unless I can read the lable. And then if it is wool I tell them no.

    But I would take it in to a rug shop.

    And if your "employee" isn't finding out what he is cleaning before he cleans it, then you are lucky this is the 1st time you have had a problem.
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    Pick up the rug and take it to your shop or home where u can clean it again. Clean small area with just water cold 1st and see if problem area disappear when wet. If so dry quickly. If not then clean with wool pre spray, also a small area and see results.
    What I am trying to say is at your shop you can experiement since worst case you still will have to buy a new rug. On best case you can reverse damage. But you don't want to have customer see you try different methods.
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    OK i just got home, (sigh long day) and im now looking at this on my comp instead of Iphone, now i see this in a new light, thats not a rug, that is installed carpet in a tile border, you can see how the tiles are all lined up perfect around the carpet and there is a thin metal line around it which is called schluder, its an edgeing for the carpet to meet the tile..

    So if this is a wool carpet, I have a feeling it was way over wetted, and could not be dried properly. Id use LiquaAcid prespray and extract again, dry stroke the crap out of it and leave air paths all night, repeat, then maybe encap..

    I almost wonder if this is a homeowner botch with a rug doctor and just coming here for advice. (dont mean to accuse it just happens alot).
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    Thank so much guys for the support.. The only chemical used on this rug was prochem super burst sr n hot water extraction
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    opps tron is right, I thought it was a throw rug
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    Im looking at this thing closer, theres red and a ton of brown on the right side, definetly got it too wet and not dried quick enough.
    can you uninstall it to clean? it would probly clean and dry quicker and better in a clean garage or shop.

    Brown out / tannin remover
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    I usually start with the basics, water only rinse.
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    i also would like to point out that this rug was cleaned before, using a pre spray called "grease magic" the first time we cleaned it which was about 6 months ago we had no problems at all...this time we used the prochem super burst pre spray...another thing the employee told me was the rug smelled like must when he sprayed it and he sprayed it alot espcially over the traffic stains....the owner still has not confirmed if the carpet is wool or not but will tomorrow... but she did say it is an expensive rug. ur input is well appriciated...and tron this is not a botch im in trouble man...if u look at my older post u will see i used this when i had a problem with my boxxer machince.
  20. ALOHA CARPET New Member

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    and tron id appriciate ur help please send me ur information incase i cant figure out how to undo it...thank you so much.

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