Heat options for a portable?

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    Will Reed

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    I currently use a Rotovac CFX which I have not been satisfied with. My water source is the customer's tap which feeds directly to my RV 360 so I am at the mercy of the customer's water pressure of quality of their hot water heater. Buying a new portable with a built in heater like a Mytee isn't an option as I would just view that as a waste of money when I already have a working portable. So I could buy a rotovac docking station which gives me a 27 gallon holding tank and put two bucket heaters in there to heat the water up. Maybe an in-line heater? I am thinking my only real option besides a docking station for another $995 is saving up for an entry TM and cargo van.
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    I have seen inline electrical heaters that supply ample heat. They only hold up to 300 p.s.i, which would be ok in your situation. I think powr-flite has one for about $300.
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    get an lpg little giant water heater, they're fantastic, a little pricey to buy but well worth every cent you spend on it.

    I'm glad i got one. It saves time and money in the long run.

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    On the little giant can the heat keep up cleaning T&G? THanks
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    The 2ht can't but talk to Jan Sullins to find out what size you need.

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    I have a 3ht 120.000 btu unit. and the heat is fantastic. 95C (205F) easy (within 2 min) you can get a 3ht High pressure unit that can handle 1300psi at the same heat so t&g is not a problem.
    the std LG can run up to 500 psi.

    The LG 2ht is 65.000BTU so it will take a little longer to warm up and may not keep up.

    My porty has a built in heater and I'm told by the supplier that the 1500psi pump can handle 70-80c heat without a problem so I'm going to trial running the heater into the porty for T&G rather than the std porty to heater setup. I have it all set up with quick connects so it's literally 30 seconds to swap from one configuration to the other.

    At the end of the day it all depends on what pressure and flow rate your running as to whether a heater can keep up with T&G cleaning
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    As in running 200+ degree water through your porty pump?
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    70-80c is 160F - 175F it is still up there in the heat range but not quite pushing boiling point boiling.
    The supplier has told me that it will handle it no problems. i haven't done it yet and I'm still doing research on it.
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    What pump are you running in your porty? Before you run 200+ heat through it make sure the seals and check valves can hold up to that heat. I would get online to the actual manufacturer and not the supplier to make decisions like that. Even TM pumps pump cold water through to the HX system.

    Just be cautious dude. Most pumps I have seen can only withstand about 140F before blowing seals and such.
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    Exactly right, even truckmount pumps can only take up to 165 F heat, I would not run 200 degree water through any pump.
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    I'v been doing a bit of research on the pump and it could be one of 2 I have to open up the machine to chk what pump is in it.
    it is either a Hawk pump or a Bertolini pump. they used both.
    when i sort out what pump i have I'll follow up from there.
    What i can do is fit a lie detector in line and adj the thermostat to a useable temp for the pump to handle

    but even more so at lower temps the 3HT LG heater will still keep up with T&G.
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    Thanks Guys for you input and concerns
    But I never actually mentioned running 200degree water through my pump.

    This is what i said.
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    Ok Guys,
    I've Just been online and both of the pumps used in my machine are rated at 65C that is about 150F even at 140F with the right chems, dwell and agitation that is plenty for domestic T&G cleaning, and even light commercial at 850 - 1200psi


    Any way back to the original post.

    i still believe an LG heater will do what Will wants.
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    140-150 sounds a little better.
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    can you bring the lg into a highrise?
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    How big is an LG and how much are they? Is it something that I bring inside with my portable?
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    LG > Little Giant is a Propane unit . NO I would not recommend you use it indoors.
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    some people say yes some say no.
    We use an lpg heater in our house and the are not vented out side at all.
    Lpg burns and gives of virtually Zero emissions. I personally would use one inside. Look at how some guys have them set up in a van.
    i would make sure that there was ventilation and no combustibles around.
    they are made and sold on trollies so they are portable.

    I would Contact Little Giant and Ask whet they would recommend on the heater usage internally.

    the size is about a 14" foot print. and full of water they are weighty but not ridiculously heavy
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    You don't run the not water through the pump , rather you run cold water or even warm water through
    pump into the propane water heater. Portables generally have pumps that should not have cleaning
    solution any hotter than 140 degrees. Since Little Giant makes a Hotamatic Cart System in both
    3HT and 2HT sizes I would assume that in many locations it is legal to run these units inside a building.
    Likesome already mentioned there are very little emmisions from propane . People run propane buffers
    on tile inside buildings so why not? I have the 2HT cart system but have yet to use it inside as I have
    yet to need to bring the heater inside to do a job. As far as how fast the different models reach maximum
    tempature I don't think there is much difference between the 2HT and the 3HT. While the burner is bigger
    on the 3HT it has larger coils than the 2HT so it may even out. But the high pressure model has thicker
    copper coils so it does take longer to reach operating tempature. All the heaters are set at the factory
    to reach 200 degrees. As I understand when it reaches maximum tempature it will come back on at
    180 degrees so mostly at the heater it will be very close to 200 degree heat. I am using the 2HT 65000 BTU
    propane heater and it provides all the hot water that I need. It burns my hands and fingers using 150 feet of
    1/4 inch solution hose when unhooking wand from qds . Usually I run my equipment at 400 psi static and then it drops to 325 or so when I
    key the wand.

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    hotomatic_gas_water_heaters.jpg The 2ht with cart and bottle included. It is the one i have my eye on, Steambrite has it listed at 1210.00 plus 122 in shipping. I just did a job where i hooked into a washing machine hot water line, plenty of heat for me, but i would still like to have the back up and on demand heat this heater has to offer. I run the M5 with Rotovac. By the way my Rotovac only 5 months old is not working, i am going to take a closer look later.

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