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First day working for another carpet cleaning company horrible!!!

Discussion in 'General Carpet Cleaning & Upholstery Discussion' started by donaldsodav290, Oct 20, 2011.

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    Well everyone, I started a new carpet cleaning tech job aside from my own business to help with the slow hours during the winter.

    I got to the job site in the morning, a 25 story condominium. I was told that with two portables and 3 workers we have a total of 12 hours to clean roughly 18000sqft of carpet (all hallways).

    I'm thinking this is ridiculous, they are one cord 100psi crap portables with almost shot vac motors. How can you even clean properly with them to begin with let alone clean at all doing 750sft an hour.


    To cap everything off: THEY DONT PRE-SPRAY/AGITATE/DWELL. They do nothing at all, they only extract with hot water using the dinky 1.5" inch wands with low flow two jet.

    I am 6"2 and using the tiny dinky wands that come with the portables will have my back shot in less than a month. Especially with the scraping technique the head technician wants me to use.

    The general manager is a great guy but doesn't know anything about carpet cleaning and has counted on his two 18 year veteran employees to tell him how it's supposed to be done. In fact today is the first time the general manager of business contracts has ever been on the job site to see his technicians clean.

    I think I have to be upfront with him and tell him that they are essentially ripping their clients off by spray and sucking and not really cleaning the carpets. I mean I can clean at least 1300sq/ft an hour using a CIMEX with decent chems and get the carpets looking a lot better than they will ever looking using the methods that his veteran employees use.

    I mean i'm only 22 years old and I hate to tell off 50+ year old so called veteran carpet cleaners. But I have to call Hacks when I see them. I noticed a large coffee stain in front of the door and I said we needed to treat that with the proper chems (a peroxide/ammonia preferred chem), instead they told the general manager up front that they just need water to extract and that's all. I shut off my portable and asked the general manager if I could be frank. He said yes, so I told him that we are not following industry standards set out by the IICRC by a lightyear. I told him that I would show him proper techniques and equipment if he was interested. I am going to follow it up with a crash course 1080p video so he can see the stark contrast between a technician and a Hack who wants to get the job done in 4 hours so he can sit around for a day and a half and smoke while getting paid.

    Needless to say I have created some bad blood between the hack employees and myself. But I don't care, I am going to re-vamp their carpet cleaning division to something that at least meets proper standards for carpet cleaning.

    Anyways my 2 cents for the day, I am juts so glad I have TMF to vent and be amongst professionals that actually clean carpet properly.
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    I have two thoughts:

    1) What did you expect?

    2) I hope you keep your job long enough to go back to your own business successfully.
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    Sadly your an employee now and dont know the whole story, do what your told.

    More things going on then iicrc standards, or clean freaks or whatever they are
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    I don't know the answer to this question, but it makes me wonder: was it really your place to "be frank" with them? Will it have been worth confronting them in the end or will it just make your life harder?

    I agree with you that their methods suck, and I would be frustrated. When I've worked as a sub-contractor for other crappy window cleaning companies, I just do it their way because that's what they've hired me to do. Some people just don't want to change their methods or learn anything new. I have usually found nothing but resistance when trying to teach an old dog new tricks.
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    From a guy that has seen similar things and now is an employer and not the employee, I would keep your mouth shut to the owner and especially other grunts until you make a name for yourself with them and get to know the guy above you but below the boss and slow infuse your opinions that way. Bottom line, you no longer write the checks so you do what your told no matter how crappy the results. But I wouldn't deliberately steal or cheat someone, but just not doing high quality work isn't in your options anymore, you can just make the big dog happy and get paid. You have to think about it from an outside perspective, like you said he doesn't know much about carpet cleaning and is 50+ and has multiply employees with big contracts that are probably bid tight to begin with. So he hires a young gun 22 year old that in the first week undermines his knowledge, business ethic and causes disruption with the other employees.... Your making a recipe for a quick fire!

    FYI: I totally agree that they sound like hacks so I'm not questioning that. Been there dude trust me..
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    I didn't tell my boss off, He was actually asking me about certain methods and was interested to know about all these other things. From what I gathered he wants to increase efficiency and provide the client with the best job the company has to offer. It's the other two employees (carpet techs) who are set in their ways and cut corners and essentially cheat the company out of decent work.

    The manager is completely up to suggestions he told me, so I will give them to him.

    I mean I honestly don't care if I get fired, not like a need the cash really bad. I just think those techs need to get put in their place and the manager needs to know how they really work when he is not around and all the shady crap they try to pull (leaving early, half assed cleaning, constant smoke breaks etc etc.)
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    Why in Gods name would you help them?
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    lol your right shane. I probably shouldn't. But it is my nature, we live in a town of over a million and business is everywhere. Helping the general manager improve his business isn't going to hurt mine.
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    Spend 50-60 hours week on your own company

    I wore younger man clothes once, make alot of calls, bang on doors who cares
    You make way more money

    Its all in your head, seriously its all in what you think you can do
    Alot in 50 hours
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    Amen. You just helped your employer/competition step their game up on a contract you dont have. Nice.
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    I think you night want to mind your biz if you want to keep your job. My feeling is they are not looking for some 22 yr old hot shot to show them how to run their biz. They obviously know there profit margin. Just do your job and be a good minion.
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    Thinking about working for someone else and having a boss again is making me feel like crap.
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    At the rates he charges, I bet he will make less money being legit. He will come to that conclusion quick and perhaps he already has.
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    I cringed as well. It hurts.
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    Not telling them how to run their business. I'm showing them how to clean carpets. This is what they do right?

    I thought you guys were all against the splash and dash low balling cleaners that take your jobs away? Whose side are we on here.
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    Yours to make a decision

    Employee or Owner
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    poop or get off pot
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    If you spent as much time handing out cards and talking to people as you would doing hack cleaning you will make more money guaranteed is all he is saying.
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    I wish somebody gave me free advice at 22, they just ripped me off.
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    That's why this forum is so valuable. I've learned a lot from my mistakes starting out just by reading here. I've corrected some and working on others.
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