blocked inline filter and jets

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  1. sam miller Legend

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    I used powdered form 90 forever then switched to liquid 90 my dad lost his account with chemspec so I switched to cti efficient extract all my lines inline filter on the 405 got blocked up almost immediatly and my wand filters began clogging with a white residue sand that would block water flow. so I decded to give liquid slurry a try and iit was just as bad.

    I have since gone back to liquid 90 and the problem is gone how do companies stay in business if thier product creates more work for the end user in maintenence or do they get rid of the filters????

    why do some products clog while others dont?
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    You sure it's not calcium deposits from hard water?

    I've never had a problem, but I also have a water softener.
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    It may have been a buildup that was created from the formula 90 that got released when you changed products. If you used a liquid and it caused the same problem it is a good possibility.
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    I have a water softner my inscreen filter on the 405 was blown out from build up so I replaced it with a new one and that one was ruined too I used 2 -3 bottles of efficient extract then 4 cases of liquid slurry. they changed the water in our area from chlorine to amoniacloride or something with the name ammonia in it??? I thought it was the change in water here at first my in line filter in my two prochem wands screen
    my hydroforce sprayer screen was in need of cleaning 2-3 times a day on the average

    and I have s bend 2 jet wand with screens on the tips that clogged constantly once I switched back to liquid 90 the filter in the machine was being freed of all debree and has since remained free of debree none of my wands or hydroforce are jets need cleaning out at all thats over a 6 month period.

    Iam not a chemist but I know the cti product and tghe slurry had a couple common ingreidients namely alot of sodium.

    also if you dont have an inline filter or filters in your wands and hydroforce cause you can remove them it probably wouldnt show up.

    one of my competitors loves slurry I think he uses the powdered form all ask him about his lines and get back to you,

    also we distributed for prochem for years and I have nothign against thier product I can get liquid slurry for $ 24.95 per gal and Im spending $26.95 on the 90 so ya I want to use what works and saves me money period.
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    I don't think the problem is with the new cleaners you are using. What is happening is they have descalers and corrosion inhibitors in them that is loosening all the buildup in your system from years of using formula 90.
    Next time do a thorough descale before switching chemicals and see if it happens again.
    If it does then it might be a reaction with the water but I don't think so.
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    alledgedly 90 has corrision inhibitors and I do use a water softener from prochem and descale quite often ps didnt aziz work for chemspec at one time?? and doesnt he make formula 99 ? is 90 that bad? I did switch to liquid 90 which is not the same as formula 90 powder its a chemistry is completely different at least the ingrediants suggest that. I replace my lead line that goes into the house every 6 months but if no one else experienced this well its probably me maybe I'll buy another efficient extract and see but I'd bet my equipment with 8000 hours on it is better maintained then most. also we dont have severe hard water problems here and with a good water softner.

    also all the other screen and filters in the machine are clean only the last step screen before the chemical injection was effected it would be nice if the chemist here would respond in stead of everyone assuming all my lines were block by 90 and slurry and efficient extract cleaned my scaled machine

    maybe I could believe this but I changed my last step screen and if you know the 405 from prochem 90 isnt going thru the whole machine it enters right from the chemical jug thru a screen after a check valve the prevents back flow then exits the machine thru the high pressure hose I changed last step filter with a brand new one and it was loaded with gunck like a white sand granual substance that smeared into a paste.

    Iam going to assume its probably the change in how they filter or purify the local water and how the chemicals reacted to that.
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    http://www.proschoice.com/Efficient_Extract5x8.pdf crystal forming operative words sorry guys I found my answer read the note part they say you need to fresh water rinse for the build up I'll check liquid slurry msds sheet and let you know if I find anything there also.

    nothing on the slurry msds sheet but it wasnt gradual at all as msds sheet says for effeicient extract it cleaned as well as 90 and slurry imho.

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