Another Steam Action Restoration Project Question

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  1. rentman New Member

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    What type of water pump would fit on this machine? Steam Action 4 cyl (40HP) w/ Roots 56 Blower and no it is not stolen!!
    I have four hoses either cut off or with fittings attached, a V- belt hanging off drive shaft pulley, and a view from the opposite side shows two small brackets (approx 6" apart) to apparently hold something down, and another hose that is connected to the T-shaped fitting that is barbed on one side and a male hose end fitting on the other.

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    Here is a general pump that will fit, or that you can make fit. It is a 4.2 GPM 3000 psi pump. make sure the pulleys ate geared so the pump stays under 1750 rpms.

    http://www.pressurewasherauthority.com/item--pressure-washer-pumps--general-pump-ez3042s.html

    here is a link to a list of all their General Pumps:

    http://www.pressurewasherauthority.com/cat--pressure-washer-pumps--general-pump-solid.html
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    Todd, You still amaze me with all these links you pull out of thin air like that. Johnny:AddEmoticons04233:
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    Thanks, Todd

    Now being totally ignorant here; how do you size the pulley to stay under the given RPM. And also I assume that it translates back to the RPM of the motor of the TM? I am not much on motors and know zero about pumps. So excuse my ignorance as I ask for a complete explanation.

    Would this pump allow me to do all types of cleaning?? Press. Wash, Tile and Grout, Carpets, etc, etc,??
    Should/Could there be a reason for a larger pump for this machine?
    Thanks in advance for sharing your expertise
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    When I retrofitted my machine this is the pump I put on it. I do pressure washing with it too and have used it at 2500 psi, but to use such high pressure you have to modify the machine in such a way that you don't blow your heat exchangers or chemical injection system if you have one. I actually do not have a chemical injection system on my truckmount and I have a quick connect coming right off the pressure regulator that I use when pressure washing. I use it also for carpet, tile & grout, upholstery and any other cleaning I do, this pump is able to do just about anything you will need. This pump aslo supplies enough GPM (gallons per minute) to run 2 wands if you ever wanted to do that.

    As far as pulleys are concerned here is a calculator you can use to figure out what size pulley to get. On line 1 enter the maximum speed you will run the engine at (I would guess you will not run the engine any faster than 2500 rpm's) and the size of the drive pulley on the engine and then on line 2 put in 1750 rpm's (the max speed of the pump) and hit solve and it will tell you what size pulley you need for your pump. The shaft size on the pump is 24mm, get a pulley with a taper lock bushing (any pulley supply shop will know all about what you need).

    http://www.culvermotor.com/Engineering-Formulas/Pulley-and-RPM-Calculator.html
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    Dude, why don't you just call Steamaction @816-580-3276. A really smart guy will probably answer the phone. He'll probably be able to tell you all you need to know to add the correct parts to make it a functioning machine. That is an old TM. Might I suggest attacking it's restoration like that of an antique car. Maybe Robb Allen should chime in. Doesn't he have one in the video section?
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    I have called Steam Action and the really smart guy you refer to has ( according to Secretary at Steam Action phone #) looked int o his archive and deemed it as a phone call he chose not to return before his latest business trip. So, I am a clueless newbie trying to sort out oil lines, from water lines, blower pipes from muffler pipes, etc. The oil in this motor is as black as the engine. My ex brother in law used it for years, gave it away to a friend who blew up the other unit he had bought, borrowed this unit during a divorce, stripped it for parts and left it for dead. Ex brother in law said he still own it, the friend has two working units now in his janitorial business, told me where this was left for dead at his mechanic buddies house. So, I am trying to project it back into a working machine for a new water damage venture I have created way down South here. P. S. we also have several hundred rental units that we could ocassionally use it for cleaning, and as a general contractor in fire and water damage,we always have a need for a pressure washer.

    I do realize I am repairing an antique but everyone who has ever run it has said it was most impressive water suction of anything they have ever used. I am kinda curious myself why three people I know have used it; one sold it; one gave it; and one ditch it for dead.
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    THANKS, TODD....I really appreciate your help with this project.
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    One other thing I highly recommend while the machine is all torn apart is take the machine to a truckmount repair shop after putting in the new pump & pulley and have them put a new pump belt on for you. You will need to seperate the engine and blower to do this and they have to be properly re-alligned when put back together so this is one thing I would pay to have done. Chances are anyway with the new pump and pulley you may need a bigger or smaller belt anyway.
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    I wish we lived closer to each other, it would be fun to help you rebuild this machine.
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    I'll be glad to post a few pics here and there if you can keep supplying information.
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    Todd do you have any pics of your modification?
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