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    Angry Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    I was cleaning up a house just gotten a rotovac 360, and at the end of the day i felt a sudden loss of vaccum so i went out side and sure enough the engine sounded different. Almost as if someone turned the throttle down. I checked water pressure was good, i had water, i had chemical, no obvious leaks. I checked for leaks around the top of the waste tank, took the lid off and checked the vacuum line for debris NOTHING. I turned the throttle down half way and it still sounded the same like i didnt even move the throttle. So I checked the spark plugs and one of em was slightly black. Cleaned them out put them back in still runs weird, its not going to full throtlle. My guess is that the engine isnt running its top shape. And that the vacuum is fine. Any suggestions greatly apreaciated sorry for the long post.

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Check for any kink in fuel hoses. Check all spark plugs and do a minor tune Up on the carburetor.

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Im going to go through everything you said and see if i come up with a solution if i do i will post it here for someone having a similar problem. Thanx for the input

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    does it have belts? just curious.. i dont know anything about those machines

    i would also check your throttle cable, choke, and where the throttle cable controls the engine, maybe a screw rattled loose or something. also check your air filter.
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    Question Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    It has belt and its fine checked everything gas is good i changed the spark plugs still does wind up at full throttle something is holding it back? Maybe the spark module?

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    if the engine sounds fine and you are only losing vac, i would inspect everything in/around the blower. does it have a preheater? did you check the filter in your waste tank? we have had vac issues before, and stuffed a hose in the vac inlet from the machine and pushed out little pieces of wood or debris that were wrapped with hair and everything else.

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    I had a little problem like this with my 4.0 and it ended up being my throttle cable. It was broken, and I had to manually pull the throttle on the carburetor to find it. Just start at the engine and try to trace everything backwards? Something will pop up.

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    The engine is running fine but it sounds a Lil like its bogging the engine is not running right the throttle cable is good I checked the choke and it seems to run the same with it open or closed so I don't know the carburator looks clean I changed the spark plugs nothing yet

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    Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Sounds like fuel to me? Look at you're fuel filter and or the fuel pump. You already have spark (engine is running) so I would bet on not enough fuel to supply the higher rpm's.
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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by bayareasfinest View Post
    The engine is running fine but it sounds a Lil like its bogging the engine is not running right the throttle cable is good I checked the choke and it seems to run the same with it open or closed so I don't know the carburator looks clean I changed the spark plugs nothing yet
    How can the choke do nothing? Did you check to see if the butterfly was moving when you pull the choke? If that butterfly closes and nothing happens you have one serious air leak at the intake.

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Yea the choke closes and opens I checked it with the intake filter off so it works. So the leak should be under the carburator? I don't know the engine sounds like its not gettin enough gas or air ? ...almost like a misfire inside the engine? What should the spark plugs be gaped at? I looked at the manual with no luck. And could the spark plug wires be bad? :( I dont know
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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    has the blower been lubed, oil in the resevoir, greased? just checking what would slow the engine down bearings seizing up? and of course check the fuel filter, and throttle linkage some of those are more or less like a choke cable locked down with a screw and if the screw backs out. the outer casing will slide forwards vice versa..

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Non of us are going to be able to diagnose your problem. All were doing is throwing darts at what seems like logical answers. If one of your plugs is black thats a rich mixture right there. Not even really a big deal unless its caked with black sooty deposits. For instance when I said if your choke is closed and no reaction theres a leak. Spray starter fluid/ether at the neck of the carb to see if rpm's raise. Or maybe your linkage is binding not able to move into high rpm. Honestly I think it may be about that time to take it to someone who knows how to fix truckmounts. No disrespect at all just thinking about what is the most reasonable thing to do at this point. And who knows it may be something so obvious and easy to fix. I'm sure one of us has actually hit the nail with all of these suggestions. Good luck Stavros! I hope you find the problem.
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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    I took it all apart and i seen that the air filter looked oil saturated so i ran it without it. I took a video of it, as i revved the engine up i could see unburned fuel splashing in little bits at the carburetor top. So i think i'm drowning my engine with gas. I looked at the coil packs and they do look pretty old. See the video and tell me what you think. The sound is horrible on the video since i recorded with my phone and the engine is loud :P
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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    A couple things could be wrong. Either your running way too rich or your valves are not seating properly or your duration is off. Duration is the amount of time the valve stays open on the cam lobe. Have you tried to adjust the air/fuel mixture? If your float was sticking or set too high you would see fuel come out of that curved open tube which is an overflow tube. What is happening is your putting more fuel into the chamber than capacity allows. When your piston is traveling up it is pushing out excess fuel before the valve closes. Lets say your coil was bad and your air/fuel was fine....unburned fuel would pass through the head and out the exhaust valves in a normal manner much like a water pump. So i think your coil is fine. Black spark plugs is also an indication of a rich mixture like I mentioned in a post above.
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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    How do I set the duration? I seen a plug in front of the carburator that turns from left to right is that it?

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by bayareasfinest View Post
    How do I set the duration? I seen a plug in front of the carburator that turns from left to right is that it?
    Your looking to set air fuel mixture. I suggest taking it to a service center.

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    How do I set the air and fuel ratio? There's no repair shops that work on this type of machines in my area. The only one is 3 hours away

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by bayareasfinest View Post
    How do I set the air and fuel ratio? There's no repair shops that work on this type of machines in my area. The only one is 3 hours away
    Check with a lawn equipment repair shop. Gave mine a copy of the manual and they havnt been stumped yet.

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    Re: Hydramaster 3.2 Vacuum Loss Caused by Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by bayareasfinest View Post
    How do I set the air and fuel ratio? There's no repair shops that work on this type of machines in my area. The only one is 3 hours away
    definately take it to a lawn mower repair shop, they will know exactly what to do, and it will cost you 1/4 the price of a service at a shop that specializes in truckmounts

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