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    I have to submit 2 bids.. 1 cleaning and sealing... 1 polishing and sealing a travertine tile floor

    This is a Dental office and it is in an upscale newer office building. Roughly 2000 squ. ft. of travertine tiles. The Dr's complain about how the floor gets dirty fast and they have trouble keeping it clean. The patient waiting room has polished Granite and they want to have the travertine look good also. The tiles are rough travertine and even if I seal them, because of the texture, they will probably still get dirty easily. I am considering bidding depending on the amount of polish they will want on the floors. Any guidelines on how to price different levels of shine? Do I ask for a deposit towards the Pads/sealer I have to purchase to do the job up front? This will be my first job since taking classes. any advice is appreciated.

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    Re: I have to submit 2 bids.. 1 cleaning and sealing... 1 polishing and sealing a travertine tile fl

    I also have an incoming job for travertine. The customer applied a sealer from home depot and it goy dirty. I guess is a topical sealer. So we need it to strip the sealer and clean it to see in what conditions the floor is.
    I think the price depends on he level of shine they want as you mention. If you are using the spinergy pads it can be like $1 or $.75 per grit or level or something like that.

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    Re: I have to submit 2 bids.. 1 cleaning and sealing... 1 polishing and sealing a travertine tile fl

    Be sure your client understands that a sealer can make the floor easier to keep clean, but it does not provide shine. The shine comes from polishing.

    Examine the floor to determine the condition it is in now and the level you want to reach. One way to do this is with a gloss meter. You can take a reading in an area with little or no traffic, maybe very close to the baseboard. The gloss level in that area would be close to what the tile was when new. That should tell you the look and gloss level the clients want.

    Compare that reading with the level in the high traffic areas. Once you know where the floor is now and where you want to go, you can figure out how much polishing is required.

    Roughly, expect to raise the gloss level 12 to 15 points for each grit you use. A well maintained floor may only need 1 grit level. A neglected floor may need 4 or 5. An abused or long neglected floor needs resin bonded diamond discs, not pads. Most floors I have seen are in between those extremes.

    Just like carpet cleaning, prices vary with markets and levels of service offered. Figure $1 to $1.50 per sq. ft. for the 1st grit level. Maybe .75 to $1 for each additional grit level. These are simply ball park prices. The job situation and your own business practices will influence the price you charge.

    Cleaning and sealing would be additional process and an additional charge.


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    Re: I have to submit 2 bids.. 1 cleaning and sealing... 1 polishing and sealing a travertine tile fl

    Bid it like you would the Jan stuff. How much time you think you will have invested on the reg maintenance, then add in the monthly, etc stuff like the cost of the pads(pro rated them to how long you think they would last) make a yearly price for it, then break it down to how ever your billing cycle is for them and let that be your bid. I personally alway bid a little cheaper on something inside the same building I already am working in.

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    Re: I have to submit 2 bids.. 1 cleaning and sealing... 1 polishing and sealing a travertine tile fl

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott W View Post
    Be sure your client understands that a sealer can make the floor easier to keep clean, but it does not provide shine. The shine comes from polishing.

    Examine the floor to determine the condition it is in now and the level you want to reach. One way to do this is with a gloss meter. You can take a reading in an area with little or no traffic, maybe very close to the baseboard. The gloss level in that area would be close to what the tile was when new. That should tell you the look and gloss level the clients want.

    Compare that reading with the level in the high traffic areas. Once you know where the floor is now and where you want to go, you can figure out how much polishing is required.

    Roughly, expect to raise the gloss level 12 to 15 points for each grit you use. A well maintained floor may only need 1 grit level. A neglected floor may need 4 or 5. An abused or long neglected floor needs resin bonded diamond discs, not pads. Most floors I have seen are in between those extremes.

    Just like carpet cleaning, prices vary with markets and levels of service offered. Figure $1 to $1.50 per sq. ft. for the 1st grit level. Maybe .75 to $1 for each additional grit level. These are simply ball park prices. The job situation and your own business practices will influence the price you charge.

    Cleaning and sealing would be additional process and an additional charge.

    You posted at the same time.. I like your reply ALOT better than mine..

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    Re: I have to submit 2 bids.. 1 cleaning and sealing... 1 polishing and sealing a travertine tile fl

    have you practiced on a test floor? If not it would be very irresponsible of you to jump into a customers floor without knowing the dynamics of stone polishing and the spinergy system. Have you worked on tumbled trav before? If this is a commercial office 9 times out of 10 there is some type of janatorial sealer on the tile so you may have to strip. If you have a topical on the tile dont use your spinergy pad it will ruin them. Do some stone testing and be careful.

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    Re: I have to submit 2 bids.. 1 cleaning and sealing... 1 polishing and sealing a travertine tile fl

    I would just use resin diamond disks and polishing powder and forget about the spinergy pads, you will get much better clarity and can hone damaged areas out much better and faster than the spinergy system.

    You should indeed make a practice floor in your garage to practice your techniques and get the feel of it. Finnaly, I would do a small demo area to see what it takes to restore, see if you can meet their expectations and get a better idea of how long it'll take. As far as pricing goes you should be able to get around .75 - $1.00 psf per grit level or so maybe a little less if it is a large open area and more if it is very confined area like a bathroom and needs a lot of detail work.
    Last edited by Daron Farrar; 09-03-2010 at 08:42 PM.

 

 

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