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    The methodology behind the Use of an acid rinse

    Of course the acid rinse method was designed for a purpose. This first reason was to neutralize the high ph from shampoos or surfactants presprays or what ever.
    The other was to cause a chemical reaction during cleaning.
    As science proves mixing an acid with a base. Makes a violent reaction as each fight the other until they decay each other. Thus decreasing drying time by leaps and bounds.

    At home experiment: Get 3 large remnant carpet pieces preferrably raw untreated with protectant. pour 1 capfull of vinegar into 1 gallon of water set it aside, pour 1 cup of baking soda into 1 gallon of water set aside.

    place remnants onto plastic trash bag then onto concrete. Pour one cup of vinegar mix onto 1 carpet. extract as normal.
    pour 1 cup of baking soda mix onto the second carpet, extract as normal.

    on the last remnant soak it with soda water. extract as normal, but rinse using the vinegar solution. as if you were removing the prespray dont soak it.

    Now remember not to use any dry strokes. leave all remnants damp.

    now you can check to see which remnant dried the fastest. the simulated prespray only, baking soda water.
    The acid only rinse, vinegar solution.
    or the simulated prespray with an acid rinse.

    sorry this is a book guys. but it gives you an idea how stanley, chemdry, serv pro , had not really re-invented cc but isolated the chemistry behind the science of cc work.

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    Re: The methodology behind the Use of an acid rinse

    An acid is something that donates a hydrogen ion, or more correctly forms hydronium ions (H30) when mixed with water. Effectively, this leaves a Hydrogen, which is why it is simplified this way. Strangely though, pure Acid does not act like an acid, it needs water.

    A base is something that neutralizes the acid. So, something like baking soda is consider a base, but it's nothing like the base used in carpet cleaning.

    Hydroxides are very chemically active compounds used in carpet cleaning. They are highly oxidative, and will brown out carpets. Baking soda will not. It's not oxidative, and it no way relates to what is used to clean carpets. Since hydroxides are OH, when you add an acid, you end up with water (OH + H = H20), and a salt. For example, if hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide mix, you get salt water - HCL + NAOH = H20 + NACL. With Potassium hydroxide, you'd get water and potassium chloride.

    Acetic acid, which is what vinegar is, is a weak acid, and it's used to neutralize the hydroxides left over from the detergent. It will create water, and a salt. It will not magically vaporize, except for the fact water vaporizes (evaporates). But, you still have the problem with the residue salt from an acid/hydroxide reaction, which will remain if not extracted. It's better than leaving a hydroxide, since it will brown and oxidize, but you're still leaving a residue.

    So, not all bases are the same. Hydroxides are very different from those like Calcium Carbonate, or Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda). Hydroxides are strongly oxidative, and thus useful for cleaning. Baking soda is not, and is not the base in high PH carpet cleaning solutions.

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    Re: The methodology behind the Use of an acid rinse

    I have a video interview with Dr Aziz where he explains that acid rinses are NOT created equal and can do more harm than good. Some actually cause re-soiling according to the Dr Aziz. Dr Aziz was the main chemist who produced many of Chemspecs line and now has his own line called Fabpro. I have been to his facility numerous times and have had long talks and video interviews with him. He actually sells a fabric rinse and yet he explained the issues behind using them. Something to consider.

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    Re: The methodology behind the Use of an acid rinse

    What about the rest of the videos that have not yet been relaesed yet. I want to see or hear results from the 4 to the door , 2 inch hose, kunkle valve etx and the port shoot out videos or were those it of the critiquie?

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    Re: The methodology behind the Use of an acid rinse

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSteamClean View Post
    What about the rest of the videos that have not yet been relaesaed yet. I want to see or hear results from the 4 to the door , 2 inch hose, kunkle valve etx and the port shoot out videos or were those it of the critiquie?
    Send donations to TMF to speed them up...or buy my Ride a Long dvd...lol

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    Re: The methodology behind the Use of an acid rinse

    Quote Originally Posted by TA152H View Post
    An acid is something that donates a hydrogen ion, or more correctly forms hydronium ions (H30) when mixed with water. Effectively, this leaves a Hydrogen, which is why it is simplified this way. Strangely though, pure Acid does not act like an acid, it needs water.

    A base is something that neutralizes the acid. So, something like baking soda is consider a base, but it's nothing like the base used in carpet cleaning.

    Hydroxides are very chemically active compounds used in carpet cleaning. They are highly oxidative, and will brown out carpets. Baking soda will not. It's not oxidative, and it no way relates to what is used to clean carpets. Since hydroxides are OH, when you add an acid, you end up with water (OH + H = H20), and a salt. For example, if hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide mix, you get salt water - HCL + NAOH = H20 + NACL. With Potassium hydroxide, you'd get water and potassium chloride.

    Acetic acid, which is what vinegar is, is a weak acid, and it's used to neutralize the hydroxides left over from the detergent. It will create water, and a salt. It will not magically vaporize, except for the fact water vaporizes (evaporates). But, you still have the problem with the residue salt from an acid/hydroxide reaction, which will remain if not extracted. It's better than leaving a hydroxide, since it will brown and oxidize, but you're still leaving a residue.

    So, not all bases are the same. Hydroxides are very different from those like Calcium Carbonate, or Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda). Hydroxides are strongly oxidative, and thus useful for cleaning. Baking soda is not, and is not the base in high PH carpet cleaning solutions.
    hmm interesting purge. but aside from the actual science terminology and definitions. this is a basic formula of acid meets base resulting into a CO2 gas not water. thus if water is converted into a gas. inert properties are indeed left behind. and thus less water. This is the sole K.I.S.S. idea Harris research used to create a multi-national Corporation. And also Stanley steemer.

 

 

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