Thread: Slide / Glide Review

WAND SLIDE/GLIDE DEMO 12/10/08

Aim – To determine whether there is any advantage to having any type of attachments to wands.

Equipment used –
Machine - Prochem Performer I set at 1900rpm,
Temp - 210F temp,
Pressure - 200psi
Wand type - Prochem Quadjet 11”
Tee-jet size - 950015 outer, 110015 inner
Hose length - 30m
Carpet type - Polypropylene loop pile, on rubber underlay

Methodology –
Carpets pre-vacuumed with Dyson DC04 Constantmax,
Pre- sprayed with Prochem Performance Plus @ 64:1,
Liquid Slurry emulsifier @ 300:1 set to 3g/hr.
Single wand pass with ½ wand overlap
Moisture levels measured immediately after and then @ 1 hr intervals thereafter with Protimeter MMS

Note:
Dry carpet measured @ 70 as base level @ 18C, RH - 75%

Results –
0hrs 1hr 2hrs 3hrs 4hrs resistance(kgs)
Control 150 148 160 157 105 8-
wand

GreenGlide 186 164 150 102 80 6+
holed

Agitator 156 168 153 100 78 8-
"Slide"

Advantage 141 158 138 130 78 7
"Slide"

Slotted 163 143 134 138 78 7-
"Slide"

Twin Vac 158 145 94 82 75 7+
"Slide"

Hybrid 158 166 131 97 70 7-
"Slide"

TI wand 158 173 169 163 138 5+
"Slippery Sucker"


RX20 191 205 221 210 200 n/a
unglided

Note – RX20 measured after 1 x wet pass & 1 x dry pass
All other measurements done with 1 only wet pass.





Summary
Surprise was seeing that most readings went up in the 1st hour before they went down again. All glided wands undoubtedly showed improvements on drying time, however it must be noted that jetting on GreenGlided wand was actually 2 x 85001 outer and 2 x 11001 inner jets, meaning that technically 33% less water was delivered to the carpet face. My error on that, I’d forgotten that I had changed jetting as part of another experiment, although I don’t think the difference would have been that great, at most probably 10% as a guesstimate. (Yes I like to play with my toys a lot )

Slides across the range exhibited better moisture removal and ultimately faster drying than the GreenGlided wand, but not to a great degree. Average across the range was 75.8 as against 80 for the GreenGlide as a final reading, making them 6% faster overall than the GreenGlided wand and a whopping 42% faster than a standard wand!!

Even bigger surprise was the TI wand with a locally made "Slippery Sucker" glide, included as a last minute “curiosity factor” and supplied by Greg King, which exhibited great moisture removal to start, but then was significantly slower to dry and the RX20 supplied by Kim Howson - well, the figures speak for themselves!

What also needs to be noted here is that only a single wet pass was done, no dry passes as would normally be done with an attachment (normally you wouldn't bother lifting wand off carpet face unless you like doing extra work for no reason, right?). I am confident that an extra dry pass would significantly change readings shown, but for the purposes of this demo I was wanting worst case scenarios to be shown here.

Conclusion –
If you’re not using a Slide or Glide, why not? They are making a significant difference to both the effort physically expended and drying times. 40% is a heck of a difference and no favouritism was shown to any product as Gary Bethel from Powerclean or Brett Holman from Prochem Australia will attest to, as they were present for the demonstration along with 30-odd curious Advantage Group members.

The advantage for the Slides, and to be fair this would need to be repeated on a variety of carpet types for greater accuracy, is that in my experience the different types work better on different fibre/construction types and the fact that they are so quick to remove (including the aluminium link) when compared to a Glide is also a major factor in their favour, but if you have a Glide already and aren’t using it as I know some of aren’t, think again and trial it a bit more!

Prepared by Franco Preo
13/10/08
as part of the Advantage Group Carpet Cleaners (Inc) AGM Demo Day
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Matt what kind of wand did yo uput that Banana glide on?

Originally Posted by 561Cleaner

I purchased a banana glider, used it for two weeks and took it off. My reasoning... The size of the attachment seemed a bit larger than it was supposed to be, so I had to modify it. Then, it still did not fit right and I had to add some plumbers putty to prevent the vacuum from sucking air from the side, not to mention the water it was causing to shoot off the side. Also, it did not reach the carpet that meet the wall. Finally, all said and done it didn't help the movement of my wand to a noticeable degree and was an eye sore with all the "Fabrication" that took place.

P.S. i can't believe no body has replied to this post yet.

I purchased the Mytee Banana glider about 3 weeks ago. I have to say that I agree 100% with Matt. The fit was not only too big, I had to cut a little get the glide as close as possible to the ti lips. It is not flush and does leak air on the sides. This is why I am am very anxious to get the QC slider because of the "perfect fit" with the adapter. I'm also interested in seeing what Rob's new lips, glides, etc.. come out. This is an honest assesment of the Banana glide, I wanted it to work great, especially when I paid less than $90 for it.

I cant speak for the bad fit but it is supposed to leak at the sides.

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The leak on the sides is because the glide is not flush/seated all the way to the wand lips. I don't know if this is normal with the other glides, but it's not performing 100%.

I like the slotted glide by greenglides because of the extra aggitation over the hybrid greenglide. I have both now and I usually just use the hybrid for area rugs...

I haven't used one of those banana glides but for my ti I had to put 1/8" ( rubber washers) spacers to move the manifold out so my jets wouldn't be pointed at the glide.

i have these, my modification was trimming the sides to be flush with my pc 4 jet wand, which open up the last hole on the glide. which can grab and pull out carpet tufts on certain carpet. my suggestion is to not drill out the last hole on each side.

Thanks for the diagram, it helps to understand why there are bigger holes on the ends of the glide. Even the greenglides put bigger holes on the ends, though they do not always fit perfectly flush for a seal on the ends of the lips either. I put a bit of silicone in there to complete the seal but leave the big holes at the ends open. This diagram clearly shows why the extra airflow from the ends is important to keep moisture moving up into the wand where its supposed to go.

The larger holes at each end of a holed glide also help to suck up any bigger bits of fluff that your prevac might have missed.

Airlflow is what moves water, vacuum suction only dictates with how much force.

You guys are destroying the engineering and then complaining it don't work? LMAO!

Ive tried the hybrid pattern and also didnt like it as much as the holed style. It lets too much airflow through and increases lockdown, thus defeating the purpose of having a glide. It also leaves lines and doesnt extract as well.

I'm referring to the hybrid pattern and not just banana glides in particular.